Santino Ferrucci recently opened up about the dramatic 2021 Josh Berry Phoenix NASCAR crash, describing the incident and his own reaction to what unfolded during that race at Phoenix Raceway. The A.J. Foyt Racing driver discussed the event during a candid conversation, highlighting how differences between racing series can lead to misunderstandings on track.
At just 27 years old, Ferrucci is currently driving the #14 Chevrolet for A.J. Foyt Racing. In 2021, he was behind the wheel of the #26 Toyota Supra for Sam Hunt Racing, making appearances in the NASCAR series. During a particularly intense moment at Phoenix Raceway, Ferrucci and NASCAR driver Josh Berry clashed while they competed for position, leading to Berry crashing into the wall. This confrontation was met with a memorable response from Berry, who signaled his frustration with a double-handed gesture as Ferrucci passed by.
Ferrucci Shares His Perspective on the Phoenix Incident
On a recent episode of the Dale Jr. Download podcast hosted by Dale Earnhardt Jr., Ferrucci shared new details about the 2021 race and his thought process at the time. Expressing genuine surprise over the aftermath, Ferrucci explained the differences in racing etiquette between IndyCar and NASCAR and how that played a pivotal role in the incident with Berry.
“So I hadn’t realized what I had done. When I was racing and passing these guys, I didn’t realise that if you commit underneath, you have to run the bottom. So in IndyCar, if you’re passing someone, you just take the preferred line. I totally passed them and took the PJ 1 on the top of the preferred line and put him out on the marbles.”
—Santino Ferrucci, Driver
“I had no idea what I did. I had no idea that was wrong and not correct etiquette, especially that early in the race. And when I came around, Chris Lambert was my spotter, who spots the 11. He said it looks like he’s going to come give you the one finger salute, and I got the double bird, and I was like ‘wait that was for me! What did I do?’”
—Santino Ferrucci, Driver
Ferrucci’s description shed light on how fundamental differences in racecraft across IndyCar and NASCAR can lead to confusion and unintentional infractions, especially for drivers transitioning between series. The incident not only demonstrated the learning curve Ferrucci faced but also highlighted the emotional reactions that can erupt in high-pressure racing moments.
Building Momentum in the 2025 Racing Season
Despite past missteps, Ferrucci has shown steady progress in his racing career. His performance in the 2025 season reflects resilience and adaptability. At the 50th anniversary ACURA Grand Prix of Long Beach, Ferrucci started in the 27th spot but managed to climb up the rankings, ultimately finishing 11th. He followed this achievement with a strong showing at the XPEL Grand Prix at Road America, starting in 18th and securing a podium finish by taking third place.
Celebrating Career-Best Result at the Detroit Grand Prix
The high point in Ferrucci’s season came during the Chevrolet Detroit Grand Prix on June 1. Starting from 21st on the grid, the Connecticut native made significant progress throughout the race, ultimately finishing in second place — a new personal best for his career.
Ferrucci attributed his success to strategic decision-making and the team‘s efforts, as well as fortuitous caution periods that allowed him to capitalize on opportunities. In a post-race interview with FOX, he expressed deep gratitude and relief, emphasizing the collective accomplishments of A.J. Foyt Racing.
“First off, huge, huge shout out to this whole team. I mean, we were struggling in qualifying. I struggled. I made a lot of mistakes. I was really hard on myself yesterday because I felt like it was all on me.”
—Santino Ferrucci, Driver
“Pit stops were phenomenal. The stand was amazing. I mean, perfect strategy. I just got lucky with that yellow, and, man, I don’t think I’ve ever been so happy to see a red flag because I was really struggling. I don’t know what I did with the tires, but I couldn’t get them to come back to life. But, man, Kyle was so fast today, so congratulations to him and his team on this win, and man, I’m just happy to bring Chevrolet on the podium.”
—Santino Ferrucci, Driver
Before this result, Ferrucci’s best previous finish had been third in the 2023 Indianapolis 500. As of now, he holds 13th position in the drivers‘ championship, with 248 points to his name. Teamwork, strategic choices, and key moments on track have marked his ascent this season, affirming his place among rising talents in both the NASCAR and IndyCar fields.
The Josh Berry Phoenix NASCAR crash moment continues to stand out as an example of the challenges drivers face when adapting to new forms of motorsport. With guidance from spotter Chris Lambert and inputs from experienced voices like Dale Earnhardt Jr., Ferrucci’s ongoing journey in racing, through both adversity and achievement, illustrates the evolving nature of professional motorsports and the importance of adaptability within high-stakes environments.
